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Eurowings Routes

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:12 pm
by borchi
Hallo,

i tried to edit some Eurowings Routes. I receive flights with callsign EWG014 for example. The sdm route batch saves the route without '0' as EWG14.

It´s a bug or a feature?

Re: Eurowings Routes

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:28 pm
by borchi
Hi, it´s me again... How do pilots need to enter the route into the FMC? With or without trailing zeros?

Re: Eurowings Routes

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:25 am
by Datamix
As far is I know they use the IATA-Code in ACARS and FMC. In this case "EW0126" instead of the ICAO-Code "EWG126" used in ADS-B messages.

Re: Eurowings Routes

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:50 am
by egpd1701
HI

It would be good if the batch inputer did not strip the leading zeros off of the routes.

Re: Eurowings Routes

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:23 pm
by borchi
Yes, would be nice...

Re: Eurowings Routes

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:10 am
by agw
The problem is that pilots enter random leading zeros on flight numbers. Sometimes you'll get BAW1, sometimes BAW01, BAW001 and so on. In the old days VRS thought that BAW1, BAW01 and BAW001 were all different callsigns and would accept routes for all three... they would be updated independently of each other when the route changed, sometimes you'd see the right route, sometimes an old one... it was a pain in the backside.

So. The rule is that leading zeros are stripped off callsigns when submitting routes and they are stripped off callsigns when routes are looked up. The route is stored against BAW1 and regardless of whether the flight's callsign is BAW1, BAW01, BAW001 etc. the code will search for the route against BAW1.

Regarding IATA codes - VRS can usually tell whether the callsign is using an IATA code instead of an ICAO code. If it sees that there is an unambiguous ICAO code that it can use instead of the IATA code then it'll use that in route lookups, although it will also lookup using the IATA code. Similarly if you enter a route for an IATA callsign that can be unambiguously translated into an ICAO code then the site switches it to the ICAO code.

If you want to see the callsigns that VRS will try when it's searching for routes then you can look them up in https://sdm.virtualradarserver.co.uk/Route/History. The results that come back show the entries that VRS will search for and the order in which it will search for them.

Re: Eurowings Routes

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:51 pm
by borchi
Hallo agw,

thanks for the explanation!

Christian