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Looking for some User who want host an VRS with my Data?

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 4:58 pm
by loww
Hi
for legal reasons i search for someone who want host an VRS for me ouside of Europe. In exchange the could receive all my Data.
THX!

Re: Looking for some User who want host an VRS with my Data?

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:36 pm
by dsfh2992
How much data do you have? I could perhaps do it.

What "legal reasons" are you concerned about?

Re: Looking for some User who want host an VRS with my Data?

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:37 pm
by loww
Its hard to tell. You can get LOWW.
What "legal reasons" are you concerned about?
In Europe its illegal to receive 1090 but quite every Gov ignore it. ;)
So when I would run my own VRS Publicly the maybe ask where the Data come from.
When someone run an VRS Outside of Euope I would say ask IP XX.XX.XX.XX Please I run it just as an Iframe. :D

Re: Looking for some User who want host an VRS with my Data?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:39 pm
by Nevermind
loww wrote:In Europe its illegal to receive 1090 but quite every Gov ignore it.
That's new to me. Do you have any sources for this statement?
Since when is it supposed to be illegal?

Re: Looking for some User who want host an VRS with my Data?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:42 pm
by loww
ok lett me say it so. In many European Country its illegal to receive anything who is not Public like PMR446, CB, FM Radio*, DVB-T* and maybe Amateur Radio.
* in many country you must pay an "TV Fee".

Any other like Commercial Radio Freq, your Local Public Transport System :D , Taxi,... is illegal. ACARS, ADSB,... is for non Pilotes and everyone who got an Permission from the Gov (like Radar Operator,...) illegal.

AIS is in Austria 100% illegal to receive for everyone who have not an Boat/ Ship Driver(?!) Licence.

Sending that Data out or record,... it make it double illegal. You can go to Jail for a long time.

I know in UK the law is not that restricted like here.

Re: Looking for some User who want host an VRS with my Data?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:43 pm
by Nevermind
Machen wir eben kurz auf deutsch weiter ;)
Nummer 1: http://www.lawfactory.org/PDF/Funkamateur_2010_03.pdf
Und Nummer 2: https://openjur.de/u/130555.html

Kurz und knapp, der Empfang ist nicht strafbar.

Gibt es weitere Urteile die mir evtl. entgangen sind?

Re: Looking for some User who want host an VRS with my Data?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:52 pm
by loww
Kurz und knapp, der Empfang ist nicht strafbar.
Wenn das ist in DE so. In AT ist die Gesetzeslage ein wenig anders.
Jemand hat gezielt nachgefragt und AIS IST nicht erlaubt. Bei Mode-S wird es ähnlich sein das es sich genauso wie bei AIS um Daten handelt.

Was in den Urteil NICHT erwähnt worden ist das verbreiten von den Infos das in AT schon garnicht erlaubt ist.

Re: Looking for some User who want host an VRS with my Data?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:27 pm
by Nevermind
Das ist natürlich wirklich schade für dich :/
Platz auf meinem Server hätte ich schon, allerdings gäbe es dann sicherlich Probleme mit dem Sharing...
Du bräuchtest ja dann auch einen Adminzugang etc.pp. und das wäre mir dann doch zu heiß ;)

Re: Looking for some User who want host an VRS with my Data?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:28 pm
by loww
Sage ja einen komplett gehostet brauche ich der Public lauft. ;)

Re: Looking for some User who want host an VRS with my Data?

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:39 pm
by Nevermind
Naja, öffentlich ist meiner auch nicht :)
Gibt´s wie Sand am Meer.